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Since 1961, 10 largest Dams, Big Canals But 10% Utilization Of Narmada Waters.

Posted by egovindia on August 6, 2006

Since 1961, 10 largest Dams, Big Canals But 10% Utilization Of Narmada Waters.


Is It Not A Fraud On People Of India?



One of young subscribers to our groups Did Not Believe That There Is Very Little Utilization Of Narmada Waters Even After 45 Years Since Pt. Nehru Laid The Foundation Of Dam At Bharuch.


10 largest dams are already built many more are coming up. Largest canal in world already in place but Utilization Is just 10%. Obviously more than 10% water of Narmada is lost in evaporation in Dams alone. (20 more dams are coming up)


The first para can be directly accessed by going to “The Narmada River & Basin” in Sardar Sarovar Dam website.


For second you may go to Tribunal Award and than “Terms Of Reference”.


Ravinder Singh


The Narmada River & Basin


The total basin area of the river is 97,410 square kilometer comprising 85,858 square kilometer in Madhya Pradesh, 1658 square kilometer in Maharashtra and 9894 square kilometer in Gujarat. The drainage area up to dam site is 88,000 square kilometer. The mean annual rainfall in the basin is 112 centimeters. The annual run of the dam site at 75 percentage of dependability is 27.22 MAF. The World Bank computed the yield of 28.57 MAF while the yield computed in May 1992 by the Central Water Commission, Government of India is of 26.60 MAF, i.e. about 27.00 MAF. The utilisation of Narmada River basin today is hardly about 10%. Thus water of the Narmada continue to flow to the sea unused.




The plan for harnessing the river for irrigation and power generation in the Narmada basin was initiated in 1946. Seven projects including the Bharuch project were identified during the initial Survey and 4 projects Bharuch (Gujarat), Bargi, Tawa and Punasa in Madhya Pradesh were given top priority for investigation. After the completion of investigation, the proposed dam at Gora in Gujarat with the full reservoir level (FRL) 161 ft. (49.80m) was selected and the foundation stone was laid by the late Prime Minister, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru on 5th April, 1961. However, as more detailed, modernised contour sheets from the Survey of India were available thereafter, possibility of raising the height of the dam for optimum utilisation of water was considered.


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Does Narmada Water Belongs To MP Or Gujarat?

Posted by egovindia on August 6, 2006

Does Narmada Water Belongs To MP Or Gujarat?



It is very interesting development. The people on the payrolls of Gujarat government are so efficient that they could post reply to messages even before they are broadcast.


This funny incident happened at SKDF. My message no 6056 was broadcast at 5:51 PM but its reply no 6055 was posted above my message at 5:50.


Every one knows that Narmada belongs to MP. It was not just daydreaming but absolute foolishness to install world’s biggest canals and statewide networks in Gujarat when water as per water policy largely belongs to MP.


Even more foolishness is that when Gujarat already get lions share of Tapi, Sabarmati and Mahi rivers and have thus 10 times more water per sq. kilometer of land area than Israel but MP has no other major river except Narmada and Gujarat planned to take away all the water in Narmada in a fraudulent manner.


When I have said “Since 1961 when Pt. Nehru inaugurated the dam at Gora, very little water has flown in to Gujarat.” She should be surprised at her or his own ignorance.


Industry Entrepreneurship Memorandums in Gujarat since liberalization in 1991 is just Rs. 33,000 crores against proposals of Rs. 2,93,608 crores (Dec.05) and the wasteful investments on Narmada related project may exceed Rs. 1,00,000 crores in Gujarat alone, yet water is not assured. This Is An Illustration Of Madness In Gujarat.


She is also wrong, it is 60 million people of MP who shall decide when and where to use Narmada waters not Gujarat.


Just by saluting Narinder Modi every day, more famous as goonda head outside Gujarat that US refused VISA to him, people like Shachi think they are great-patriots and all others who write against Robbery Of Narmada waters and waste of public money as anti nationals.


None in Gujarat has replied to technical facts but there are scores of nonsense posted to my messages.


Ravinder Singh


SKDF 6055 Re: Medha + Uma = Disaster For Modi + Gujarat   Shachi Rairikar

To all those who are not aware, Medha Patkar is a big fraud and funded by anti-national forces. A few years ago the Christian missionaries and their allies who

Posted – Thu May 11, 2006  5:50 pm


SKDF 6056 Medha + Uma = Disaster For Modi + Gujarat  R Singh

Narmada Waters To Ken / Betwa Rivers, Medha + Uma = Disaster For Modi + Gujarat Chudasma & Rana, Affidavit of State governments each claiming to have completed

Posted – Thu May 11, 2006  5:51 pm


“Shachi Rairikar” <> ——-


To all those who are not aware,


   Medha Patkar is a big fraud and funded by anti-national forces. A few years

ago the Christian missionaries and their allies who are actively engaged in

converting the tribals to Christianity sponsored the demand for a separate

Bheelistan, another separatist movement like the ones going on in the north -east. NBA activists were a part of the gathering making the demand.


   Medha Patkar is very popular with the communists in JNU but is highly

unpopular in Madhya Pradesh, the state where she is working. She does not even enjoy the support of the tribals for whom she is supposed to be fighting so

hard. While it is very important that the tribals should get fair compensation

and should be rehabilitated, Medha Patkar and her band are definitely not a

genuine lot.


   As for Narendra Modi, the people of Gujrat know his worth.


   I am surprised at the statement “there is very little use of Narmada waters in

Gujarat”. The experiences and opinions of the people of Gujrat who have actually

been benefited confirm just the opposite. The people of Gujrat, both Hindus and

Muslims, are with Modi on this issue.


   Let the people of Gujrat and Madhya Pradesh (this includes the tribals who form a substantial part of the population in both these states) decide who and

what they want. It is easy for people in Delhi to give judgement on Modi or

Medha without knowing the ground realities.


   India is a free country and every person is free to form an opinion and support any movement. Supporting anti-nationalists because of lack of information is possible because the biased media rarely projects the correct picture. Rajat Sharma definitely deserves to be congratulated for having been able to give us a channel, which seems to be less biased and more interested in facts.


   Please unsubscribe me from this mailing list. I do not wish to be associated

with anti-nationalists or their supporters in any way.




   Shachi Rairikar


R Singh <corruptionfree04@…> wrote:

     Narmada Waters To Ken / Betwa Rivers, Medha + Uma = Disaster For Modi +



   Chudasma & Rana,


   Affidavit of State governments each claiming to have completed the

rehabilitation work when Rajat made great efforts to prove Medha obstructed the

RR program confirms his lies and mischief. An old lady who could not save her

house and office from the hired goondas, was projected as dreaded tigress which

terrorized Gujaratis for 20 years.


   I wonder at the poor intelligence level of paid agents of Gujarat government who could offer following nonsense only on getting the right package. Because

have they nothing to write about Narmada except nonsense.


   People of Gujarat had been fooled since 1961 when Pt. Nehru inaugurated Dam on Narmada, over 45 years down the line there is very little water flowing in to Gujarat. Modi government had to hire goondas elements to mail non-sense. The money invested so far on Narmada projects is much more than FDI in Gujarat. Yet there is very little use of Narmada waters in Gujarat.


   Medha Patkar alone has been able to pluck the nose Modi’s and his goonda

company for 20 years.


   Mr. Chudasama and Mr. Rana even Ram’s banvas lasted 12 years, Medha has been able to keep the Gujarati “Coward Force” at length for 20 years already and

rendered Gujaratis impotent for 20 years.


   Let me tell you the day Uma Bharti, BJPs rebel tigress from MP is introduced

to Narmada Water Diversion To Ken, Betwa, Chambal, Sone and Tapi Rivers, Gujarat will get little or no water from Narmada. Gujarat will not be able to repair

these giant structures.


   Uma will cut the nose of Gujaratis and shave the heads of big leaders, so the

real fight for Narmada is yet to begin.


   The day Medha and Uma join hands, Gujaratis will have their virtual tails

between their legs.


   I write freely with independent mind. You are in the habit of raising your tail before any who throws bits of “roti”.


   Let Rajat Sharma reply to my message and charge sheet.


   My honest advise to people of Gujarat is that they can’t enjoy “Chori Ka Pani”

for long. Adopt the principle “Apna Haath Jaganath”.


   Don’t sell your self so cheaply.


   Ravinder Singh

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Narmada Is Waste Of Rs.2,00,000 Crores Issue.

Posted by egovindia on August 6, 2006

Narmada Is Waste Of Rs.2,00,000 Crores Issue.


Over 30 large dams are proposed on Narmada in Madhya Pradesh and World’s largest canal irrigation system is being developed at a cost of well over Rs. 200,000 crores. Ken Betwa link is proposed to cost another Rs.20,000 crores.


But water can be easily utilized by MP by diverting it in to Ken, Betwa, Sone, Chambal and Tapi upper basins at nominal cost. Accounting for seepage and evaporation losses also very little water will be left for Gujarat.


I can very well understand the “Hurt Feeling” of the gentleman from Rann of Kutch where people drink milk of Camels and Donkeys as the area has large salt pans and local people harvest salt from the water extracted from subsoil. Cows and buffalos can’t survive there.


The soil is unfit for any cultivation. But miraculously Wild Ass or Big Donkeys thrive in the Runn Of Kutch.


Why people of India support draining of Narmada waters in salt bearing Runn Of Kutch and that may cost well over Rs. 1,00,000 crores to Gujarat alone?


So it’s a total waste of people’s money.


This Kutchi gentlemen talk’s of Bhakra, most of its water is used in Punjab and Haryana, which are fertile plains most productive for agriculture.


The idea of irrigating Kutch is like “Catching Moon” like story. Firstly water will not reach there and secondly not produce any grain crop.


Since 1961 both MP and Gujarat have used very little water of Narmada. But huge dams continue to built wastefully draining out the resources of 10 crores people.


The day some Capable Chief Minister takes charge of MP, it will make full use of its water to serve over 3,00,000 of land area and 60 million people.


Ravinder Singh


From: "M. B. Chudasama" <>----


Dear Friends,

It is undisputed truth dams are proved very useful important role in contributing economic development in the area and so is nation. Bhakara Nangal and Nagarjun Sagar is the best example for its usefulness. 'Water ways irrigation and Navigation commission' during British rule in 1946 conceived plan for dam on Narmada at suitable location. Plan was continued to work out paper work after

independence and was primarily worked out with less than 200 crores with  Jawahar lal Neheru put the foundation stone in 1961.  Series of incidence . . . Separation of Maharashtra and Gujarat State and as usual deputes between effected states  Gujarat, Maharashtra, MP and Rajshthan , . . .  formation of Narmada water dispute tribunal in 1969. . . . . Central government policy, involvement of world bank, leg pulling between states and central government etc played its role in disturbing it. Even after spending so far more than 21,000 crores in 46 years nothing concrete has come out in so many years. If we go

in root cause of all such things we can understand how far selfish, crook and dirty political game some people play even does not hesitate to sale their 'mother' ( river in India is treated like mother ) for own selfish motives. It is question mark against their patriotism. It will not hesitate you to believe particular group of

people weather working for national interest or for anti nationalist lobby. The current water resources minister in NDA government, supporting Megha and opposing Modi, Prof.  SAIFUDDIN SOJH is even question mark person, . .  Rajya sabha member from Jammu Kashmir from congress party is just enjoying ministerial berth not for his efficiency or capability but only as 'prize' from congress for toppling 12 th parliament of Vajpayee government at 13th month by his only vote going against whip of his own National conference party of Faruq Abdulla. Opportunist man after betraying own party and toppling government must have recovered big price for it. Him selfeconomics professor going against principles of economics for creating more disturbance to particular state and harming national interest just to play dirty party politics game. This River Singh may not be aware that Narmada dam was assured to be built with 400 crores by Bhaikaka in 1964 ( Indubhai patel, chief Engineer and key person behind building Bhakara Nangal dam ) but crooked politician did not consider his proposal. There is nothing hidden how that this anti nationalist activists are licking sht* of

world bank official and some anti nationalist lobby for getting few bucks for own. Megha has totally different agenda and no way have any interest for rehabilitation of poor tribal community of Madhya Pradesh. She is already unpopular among some group there. This River Singh I was thinking him some 'expert' but he too turn out  'hollow' with same pseudo secularist mentality favoring anti nationalist lobby by misusing their so called expertise knowledge. I am tired and sick from all such people . . . .  some so called 'whistle blower' running his yahoo group as private limited company as TOP SECRET for serving

BharatmAAta . . .   as if trying to chase 'race' with double speed  . .  or struggling to get 'trademark' right for some 'name' . . .   trying desperate to sale 'death' commodity . . . giving 're-death' to own family member to match the race . . .   all

are having equal tune and nothing more than that . . . . . negativist and criticizer . . . . crying out of every thing . . .  have no pride or respect for country which has already emerged world's forth largest economy ( gross GDP) . . .and steadily progressing to go economic super power . . .   I don't want to waste my energy and time among such negativist  . . self appointed authority . . .I am unsubscribing from all those groups  . . . .  to rest their soul in piece   (living dead) . . .    let them continue washing their dirty linen in public . .  river . .  Rajat Sharma is not free to read or listen 'dogs' barking at some remote nooks and corners of such wide nation  . . . . bye


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